jademountainooc | Pre-Game Brainstorming

hello!! i am so excited for this game that i have already spent a lot of time contemplating the AU setup im gonna be goin with here BUT i thought i might as well kick things off on this post! I'm planning to app Wei Wuxian from mdzs/the untamed (a little from column A a little from column B u kno its an AU) as a NightWing professor ostensibly named Moonshadow who ostensibly left the rainforest to come teach here because he just wasn't vibing with it I guess,

ofc he actually used to be a notorious SkyWing animus named Waxwing who betrayed his family & tribe and did a lot of damage in the war a while back before being righteously killed/accidentally blowing himself up/mysteriously disappearing (depends who u listen to!) around 6 years ago but ITS FINE! just, don't ask him about nightwing traditions or culture,

ANYWAY i have most of his stuff ironed out BUT!!! i am struggling a little with some pre death backstory stuff! basically i wanted him to have been adopted by MudWings because Lotus Pier is obviously a MudWing kind of Zone, plus MudWings & SkyWings being allied in the war would have meant him not being the same species as his sibs would have been SOMEWHAT a point of contention but not a huge one -- however! MudWings aren't raised by their parents and this is Wings of Fire we are talking about here like what do you expect me to do, WRITE OUT the abusive parents? please ,

these r the options i am contending with:
1) his stupid dad was the bigwings* in this AU and half the sibling group got offed during the war, cue dumb inter sibling drama about who is the bigwings now
2) his awful parents were in the sibling group that commanded/trained his in the army and sort of adopted the younger group after some awful shit happened
3) Fuck It, They're Just All SkyWings, maybe they lived out by the diamond spray delta and did a lil more fishing than SkyWings usually do and i derive my awful sibling angst from non-bigwings-related sources -- this might actually be the easiest option especially since skywing madam yu is extremely easy to visualise but (clenches my fists) mudwing sibling drama..........

ANYWAY I WELCOME INPUT ON THIS, other ideas, et cetera !

*if you're not canon familiar a quick explanation so u don't have to go dig it up -- mudwing parents lay a large clutch of eggs and then just leave them to it; the first egg in the clutch to hatch is always the largest dragonet in the group, who then helps the others out of their eggs, acts as their leader as they get older, and generally takes responsibility for their siblings.

Edited 2020-06-27 22:56 (UTC)

MudWing Jiangs is a great concept but I have to admit I personally like the SkyWing option best I think, not only because it is easy to visualize SkyWing Madame Yu but also since they're so against unusual mutations and historically don't allow their animus dragons to live it maps well to the drama of Wei Wuxian being raised as part of the family. You get some good sibling drama with the "society says my brother shouldn't be alive, but he's my brother and I care about him so I can't let anyone find out," which is a good sibling drama flavor.

Cultivation also maps really well to battle prowess, which the SkyWings in particular seem to value, which would be an added bonus.

god you're right that really IS a good sibling drama flavour!

also i'd been thinking about him getting one of his wings damaged as analogous to the whole golden core business and with skywings that would be an even bigger deal...

Oooo! Yeah that does work well for that.

Also just the mounting frustration from the Jiangs of having spent so much effort keeping his animus powers a secret only for him to all of a sudden give that up and make a big scene. That good Society vs. Family drama. Plus if I recall correctly SkyWings are one of the tribes that do arranged marriages/matings so that works for Yanli too.

Also side note but does he still play the flute in this AU, please say yes.

HMMM!! yes. yeah. you're right, this is the best option i think

also I WANT TO SAY YES BUT I DONT REMEMBER WHAT THE DRAGON MUSIC SITUATION IS

I'm pretty sure there are some but I don't know the specifics about instruments, they usually only show up at parties, which are few and far between. I KNOW there were some in Darkstalker but I can't recall from the other books.

I feel like they might have come up in Possibility in the second series? But my memory is hazy! I gotta reread some stuff it's important to know whether wwx gets to toot

I just pulled out Winter Turning, there is mention of a someone playing a stringed instrument in Possibility.

The closest I've found to flutes is "a conch shell fanfare" in Darkstalker at the SeaWing party. The musicians at the party were playing "the queen's favorite instruments" but did not specify further than that.

I feel like a flute isn't too much of a stretch if they use conch shell horns.

excellent in that case he definitely used to have an enchanted flute

Though I'm canon blind, I'm gonna +1 what Lex said earlier about going all Skywing. Not only could animus siblings fill in for that sibling drama quota, but being feared by your own kind because of your power sounds like something out of a ~~former~~ villain's backstory. "I'll really give them something to be afraid of, etc."

Take it from this guy, a fellow skywing and ~~potential~~ animus. They're not gonna like you anyway. It could be interesting if they met at some point to share on being Skywing exiles and all that, but that might be a little messy if Waxwing's going by a new identity nowadays and I'd understand not wanting to overcomplicate things.

Oh I'd love for them to have a chat 8') Or possibly to have met before, depending on Raptor's timeline? Waxwing would definitely have heard of him, either way, although I think in his current situation he'd probably be kind of avoiding him lmao

Admittedly I haven't decided on an age for Raptor past "cool uncle" but I'm sure that'd put him and Waxwing as adults during the war. Raptor was neutral throughout since at least two out of three factions didn't want him and that's way too much bloodshed over a sibling squabble. He definitely traveled through Pyrrhia a bunch, so there's plenty of opportunities they could've had to meet.

Also Raptor probably wouldn't recognize Moonshadow at least, so he's got that much to work with!

In preparation for dragon AU, I'm bringing out my Sunday best. Give a warm welcome to Dante from Devil May Cry, the stylish bombastic demon hunter who is king of the dorks. Here, he's gonna be a Skywing/Icewing hybrid with the name Raptor.

His mother, the skywing Temperance, and his father, the icewing Permafrost, happened upon each other one day, likely through battle, and fell in love. Because it just Seems To Be The Case With Icewings, Permafrost was a royal with animus blood, so their children would naturally inherit that power or at least have the ability to pass it down. Raptor takes more of a Skywing appearance with Icewing features. Unfortunately, Icewings had enough of this with prince Arctic and Skywings actively kill anyone with any unnatural abilities. Both dragons were punished (presumably killed) and Raptor had to fend for himself for most of his life.

But hey, even if both of his tribes hate him and at least one makes efforts to kill him, he became a very lax dragon who likes having fun and doesn't have a care in the world. He traveled through Pyrrhia on his own for a while. Eventually, set up shop in the town of Possibility after the Sandwing/Skywing truce during the war as someone who took on all sorts of odd jobs, from tracking down Scavenger villages to roughing up a few individuals when needed. No one's been able to confirm if he possesses animus magic, but it doesn't stop some from viewing him as a threat or even a pariah. With the school opening up and interracial tolerance growing, Raptor's packing his bags and moving in to teach.

Naturally, he wont' be an animus for the purposes of this game, but Raptor will be making regular use of the Rule of Cool; that might confuse a few dragons and that's the point~

I haven't totally decided what he'll teach as a professor, but he will be a professor. He might teach survivalism or geography or cultural studies or something like that. He's the cool uncle that'll let you in on a few cool things if you want him to. Normally Raptor would have a twin to bounce off of, but I'm leaving any sibling stuff open to interpretation and the occasional AU shenanigans. Maybe you've met Raptor before, maybe you wanna punch him in the face, who knows! This is Dante we're talking about. Hit me up with any ideas you may have on this!

Out of curiosity for those of us looking at playing IceWings/SkyWings, would this affair be the kind of thing that would have some notoriety, or have been swept under the rug? I'm guessing the latter but figured I'd ask, since my plan is to bring Diana in as a first or second circle IceWing, so she would be familiar with the royal gossip but she IS relatively young considering (probably 6-ish but I haven't sat down to bother with the math yet)..

Oh that's a good question. I was actually gonna default to the first option because it feels like something fun to play with. Pretty sure Icewings do not want another Darkstalker on their talons, but this time around the disavowed royal's part of a tribe that wants him dead because no freaks allowed. Shame they haven't succeeded.

Not sure if icewings would also try to kill him, but I'm sure his story's brought up as a cautionary tale at the very least. A smart girl like Diana would have no trouble learning about the story, either way!

Good to know, I'm sure given her family's proclivity to gossip, she would definitely have heard about it.

Oh man I'll also be playing an Icewing hybrid...I'm also curious about how much notoriety you'd think he'd have in the Icewing tribe, but I think Sizhui's the sort who'd want to get to know him on his own anyway. especially since he'd a teacher at the school. He'd really be interested in learning from him!

Raptor will appreciate the kid wanting to learn things from him, first and foremost! As I mentioned to Lex, he'll likely have his share of notoriety because god damn it, when will other tribes stop stealing our animus touched? I left it up in the air if Icewings will want him dead and try as hard as the Skywings, but Raptor's left them alone for now and they're okay with that. Three Moons help them if they provoke him.

Fortunately, Raptor doesn't really go out and hunt for retaliation, so he's chill with meeting others from his tribe! Even the ones that try to kill him have a...uhh...memorable...experience.

Yeah, it sounds like he definitely would've heard of Raptor, in that case!

Honestly though, since Raptor's a teacher at school, Sizhui's definitely going to respect him and try to encourage his fellow Icewings to do the same...probably with some varying success.

Hello everyone! :>

So I'm planning on bringing Lan Sizhui here from The Untamed as a student to Jade Academy. I've got a decent chunk of stuff planned out already! Basically, he's gonna be a hybrid Icewing/Seawing. He'll be Icewing passing with some slightly different features like a few greenish scales, slight webbing in his claws/tail spikes, a bit of a thicker/flatter tail, and and his horns will be more Seawing-like.

For backstory LONG STORY SHORT, he originally grew up with a Seawing family...the rest of whom are all dead now because of war bullshit. Since they died when he was very young, he was adopted by his Icewing dad, and raised as his son in the tribe. His dad is definitely very big important first circle status, and Sizhui will be in the first circle too. BUT he's also skilled enough on his own to be high on up on their fucking ranking wall anyway.

Sizhui himself is a very caring and polite young man, and definitely weirdly nice compared to most other Icewings. I feel like there'll absolutely be Icewings who don't like him because of this, but I think he's still polite enough/skilled enough to get respect from some of them too (also people don't want to mess with his dad).

But he's very excited to go to school, meet dragons from other tribes, be free from all the competitive Icewing bullshit for a while, and make his dad proud!

One thing I'd really like to figure out is where he'd stand with other Icewings, like if he's on good terms with them or not, etc. And also maybe with any characters who have beef with Icewings too :|a He'll definitely try to be approachable and friendly since he wants to make friends, so he would absolutely do this with Nightwings too. And I'd love to talk any other CR ideas too! He'll be a good student, good for having extra study sessions with both teachers and other students c:

cant help u with the icewings tho

That's ok, just teach him all about nightwings instead :]

:(

I just gotta say, even tho he's definitely gonna be earnestly asking him to learn at first. after a while's passed and he's figured some things out, he'll probably have to affectionately give Waxwing shit for all the great nightwing knowledge he passed along.

wow! hes doing his best here! what an ungrateful son!

~~I mentioned in my brainstorming post that I'm kind of maybe considering going SeaWing instead but there's about an 85% chance~~ I'll stick with IceWing for Diana, in which case they would definitely know each other before attending school. I imagine she would have considered him 'the competition' when they were younger and she wasn't as skilled, but over time has come to respect him (their names are probably close to/swapping around each other constantly on the public ranking wall).

She'd probably find his approachability unbecoming but secretly be really jealous he has friends.

Edited 2020-06-28 01:50 (UTC)

...DIANA )8

I definitely like the idea of them being competition and swapping back and forth. ICEWING LIFE IS HARD WHEN YOU WANT TO BE NICE...I feel like it goes without saying that he'd respect her too and act friendly towards her. But would she be kind of upfront about not liking his approachability? bc I think it'd make him more unsure of how to act around her, maybe still being nice but also willing to keep out of her way to an extent. SO like there's still some strain there.

Honestly I feel like if she respected him more as they got older, he'll probably see school as a good chance to try to approach her on more neutral ground where they don't have to compete over shit.

You have to be EXTRA PERFECT to get away with the weakness of being nice.

I don't think she would say anything while in the Ice Kingdom but she will probably have some disappointed comments when he starts fraternizing with the other tribes (esp. the NightWings don't you have any respect for ancient grudges).

LMAO IM SORRY DIANA...that is like half of the reason he is here...He will be going up to say hi to every nightwing. He cannot be stopped.

For real though, he will still try to hold up a like. Good Image of Icewings, because he doesn't want to disappoint dad. But...still not gonna stop him from fraternizing.

Look at it this way, kiddo.

You're probably never gonna wind up way at the bottom of the seventh circle like Raptor here. Having this guy's approval is subjective.

Depends on who you ask.

He is here for school, gosh darnit! ):

It's time to leave all the circle bullshit back home, he wants to learn from the cool uncle!

Hello everyone! I'm fairly certain I'll be bringing Diana Cavendish from Little Witch Academia to the game. Basically just swapping "witch school" for "dragon school."

I am definitely leaning toward IceWing for her but I've been kind of mulling over the idea of maybe SeaWing instead? A noble from the Deep Palace as opposed to a noble from the Ice Palace. I think the main variable is how Diana's dedication to tradition and excellence is overshadowed a bit by the fact that's expected of all IceWings, or if that makes her success valued even more?

It is possible I am overthinking this, and I'm open to suggestions.

hmmm i feel like the fact that in canon her classmates all think she rules is an argument for icewing? but as someone whose choices in this area have been based solely on aesthetic i do also just think it's a good Look for her lmao

That's a good point on the classmate thing. I forgot that IceWings all have that "cool kid" vibe in Moon Rising (a book I probably should have reread before starting all this lmao). And yeah aesthetics definitely lean more IceWing for her.

I think mostly I just wanted to say I considered all options before picking something immediately, but when it's right, it's right.

LMAO they kind of do don't they

I'm biased for icewings so I don't think I get a say lmfao

Considering everyone has been bringing up details I forgot to assuage my doubt, I think we can safely move forward with first circle IceWing "pals."

RUBS MY HANDS TOGETHER

Icewings do expect excellence and tradition from their tribe, but don't the seven circles also highlight how successful and dedicated one is to the tribe? Diana could easily be someone aiming for the first circle; I forget if that's exclusive to royals, but hey, higher rank is a higher social standing.

I think. It's been a while since I read the books.

Right, I forgot how much of their ranking is inherited versus based on merit, but that's an excellent point. I probably need to reread Winter Turning to get my IceWing facts all straight.

Edit: Apparently I forgot to hit post earlier but I skimmed through the wiki and you are right, they have a totally separate ranking as dragonets from their parents so I think that actually works really well.

Alright, I need to actually make a post for Alucard too, so here we go.

Alucard HAS to be a hybrid because part of his whole deal is being half human, half vampire. Tbh I picked Nightwing/Rainwing hybrid for totally selfish reasons because that's just what I want him to be, but. I feel like it kinda works in a way?

I definitely want him to be Nightwing passing with camouflage scales. I think that kinda fits with his shapeshifting abilities from the show...turning into a wolf, bats, y'know. All that good stuff.

For his backstory I'm a little bit stuck with how to get it into the WoF universe...maybe I'll keep it a bit vague. I was going in with the idea of him being raised as a Nightwing since he's Nightwing passing, so I'll probably keep that. I think his parents hooked up, his dad (the Nightwing) maybe left the tribe to be with his mom and they kinda lived on their own for a while. In the present, Alucard's mom is dead and his father is missing...I'm not sure about the circumstances though. And maybe before shit went down, they left Alucard with a Nightwing friend so he'd be raised safely in his tribe. I might need to think on this a bit more though. The whole living situation of Nightwings being with Rainwings is probably gonna be pretty awkward for him (thumbsup)

Names I'm considering...maybe Nightfall or Nightwalker.

Anyway, I'm excited to be playing him as an actual shitty teen here. Please hit me up with any ideas or anything at all!! :>

Nightwing/Rainwing is actually a surprisingly plausible combo. Not sure how much of the books you've read, so I apologize if I'm saying things you already know:

in the first arc, the Nightwings' ultimate goal was to steal the rainforest from the Rainwings since their volcano home was really, really bad. They were capturing rainwings to study them and moving in and out of the forest with animus enchanted tunnels. It's totally reasonable to have Dracula be bitter and resentful as usual through how bad the tribe had it and then being convinced to see the rest of the world by a Rainwing who had more fight in her than he expected.

~~And maybe Lisa was killed by the experiments like so many others, oops~~

And hey, if anyone from his tribe gets jealous of camo scales or better diet from the forest, he'd have that much in common with Moonwatcher!

Oohhhh that's a good point!! I've read all the books but tbh I'm pretty hazy on a lot of the stuff from the original series...I remembered the experiments, but I forgot all about them wanting to actually steal the forest and everything too :') Him having some things in common with Moonwatcher would be cute though c:

And god, Lisa being killed in the experiments would work out for this though, huh.... I might...have to do that....

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